10 Ways to Become Event Tech Savvy
The Event Tech Pull UpJanuary 09, 2025
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10 Ways to Become Event Tech Savvy

On this week's episode of The Event Tech Pull Up, we dive into a topic close to our hearts... how to get event tech-savvy and stay ahead of the masses.

We know that learning to be tech-savvy can feel overwhelming, especially when you’re juggling all of the crap that goes into making your conference or event a success, but trust us—leveling up your tech game will not only make your work more efficient but also make you indispensable.

In this episode, we break it down with 10 actionable tips to boost your confidence and capability with event tech. From setting small, manageable goals to mastering tools like Cvent or experimenting with new gadgets, we cover the essentials. Plus, we share personal stories—like how YouTube saved one of us from calling a repair tech and why Tess swears by having dummy devices for testing attendee experiences.

We also discuss the importance of staying curious, exploring basic programming, and using tools like AI to learn new skills. And yes, we touch on topics like keyboard shortcuts, social media trends, and why email mastery is still a thing (even though Tess is ready to ditch it entirely).

If you're an event planner looking to future-proof your career, this episode is packed with tips, tricks, and a little tough love to get you started. So grab a coffee or a wine and join us as we explore what it takes to truly become event tech savvy.

Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share this episode with your fellow planners! Let’s make tech-savvy the new baseline.

[00:00:00] As somebody who owns an event agency and plans events all over the globe, you want to know what's tough, Tess?

[00:00:07] What is tough, Keith?

[00:00:09] Finding people who are tech savvy.

[00:00:12] Why?

[00:00:14] Well, I don't know why, but if you're a planner and you want to get tech savvy, it will actually make you more employable,

[00:00:22] which then you can do your job when you want, where you want, how you want.

[00:00:26] And this is how you get there.

[00:00:29] You're listening to The Event Tech Pull Up, the show that brings you the good, the bad, and the ugly of event technology,

[00:00:36] with your hosts, Tess Vismale of iSocialX and Keith Johnston of i3 Events.

[00:00:42] All right, so that was a little bit overly dramatic.

[00:00:48] It's okay.

[00:00:48] But it really is true, right?

[00:00:50] You know, every time I'm talking to planners and you talk to them about software or maybe even things at the production table,

[00:00:58] you know, generally they're so focused, planners are so focused on planning the event that they don't learn all of the ancillary stuff that go into making an event happen.

[00:01:10] Right?

[00:01:11] And I think it hurts them a lot because they can't live up to the full potential of what they could do.

[00:01:23] And I understand tech is hard.

[00:01:25] I get it.

[00:01:26] It is.

[00:01:27] You know, but I think that, you know, using these itty-bitty little 10 tips that we have would actually, you know,

[00:01:37] if 10% of planners pay attention and actually implement, like, even half of these tips,

[00:01:44] you know, they are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the workforce, right?

[00:01:48] And I would love that, right?

[00:01:51] When I'm out looking for people to help at my events, work at my events, or my clients are looking for someone to be in-house,

[00:01:59] you know, these are the types of people that are needed.

[00:02:02] Yeah.

[00:02:04] I agree with you, Keith, because now the needle has moved around what the baseline knowledge should be.

[00:02:11] And I think that has only been fueled by two major things, the introduction of COVID that paused us,

[00:02:23] as well as now, what, three and a half years later, the boom of AI.

[00:02:32] Yeah.

[00:02:33] So those are the two things that have moved the needle that have raised, again,

[00:02:36] the baseline of what everyone should know, let alone just meeting professionals.

[00:02:42] Yeah.

[00:02:42] And back in the day, you know, when people would post, you know, a job description or whatever,

[00:02:48] and it always say, must have working knowledge of Word and Excel,

[00:02:52] you don't even put that in there anymore because it's expected.

[00:02:56] Yeah, it's colloquial now.

[00:02:57] That you know Word and Excel.

[00:02:58] It is.

[00:03:00] But there are so many more software products.

[00:03:03] There are so many more hardware products.

[00:03:04] It's everything out there now.

[00:03:06] Like, there is just so much tech.

[00:03:09] You know, how can planners get better?

[00:03:13] How can they learn that tech?

[00:03:14] What are some of the things that they can do?

[00:03:16] Well, number one is set small and achievable goals.

[00:03:20] And this was a hard one for me.

[00:03:23] Why?

[00:03:24] Well, because I'm one of those people where...

[00:03:25] That's CMP 101.

[00:03:26] Well, because whenever I adopt a new software tool, I try and learn it all.

[00:03:32] And it was when I started learning video editing that I said, oh, you can't do that.

[00:03:39] Right?

[00:03:39] Because there is so much to it that it's like it would take years to learn how to do everything in a video editing booth.

[00:03:47] So I concentrated on two things.

[00:03:50] Cutting clips and rendering the video.

[00:03:53] Basics.

[00:03:54] Yep.

[00:03:54] Just very simple.

[00:03:55] And you need that for anything.

[00:03:56] The tops, the bottoms, and that's it.

[00:03:58] Right?

[00:03:58] Yeah.

[00:03:59] So is that...

[00:04:01] Give me an example of how that's helpful across the board.

[00:04:07] Because the way that I kind of think about it is video is queen.

[00:04:13] It doesn't matter what it is, whether you're doing it for social media, you're doing it, you know, webinars,

[00:04:18] any of the things that you're doing, or even your full live events that video is there.

[00:04:22] If someone knows how to do the top and bottom and render, that's the basic.

[00:04:27] And then they can move from there.

[00:04:29] Well, yeah.

[00:04:30] Because...

[00:04:30] And what I did, you know, because I would import a video.

[00:04:34] Right?

[00:04:35] That's what I learned how to do.

[00:04:36] And then I learned how to cut it.

[00:04:38] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:38] Right?

[00:04:38] Because that's very basic.

[00:04:40] And then remove that cut so that the, you know, so that that piece was gone.

[00:04:45] And, you know, that's an acceptable video.

[00:04:49] Right?

[00:04:49] The basic cuts will get you to the end product.

[00:04:52] And then once you're comfortable with that, you start going, well, I would love to have a transition in that video.

[00:04:58] Right?

[00:04:59] And so then you learn the transition.

[00:05:00] Right?

[00:05:01] And at first for me, it was just fades.

[00:05:03] Fade in and fade out.

[00:05:04] Right?

[00:05:05] And then you start to, that it was, let's add some music.

[00:05:08] Yes.

[00:05:09] Right?

[00:05:10] And when you look at a tech tool like Cvent, it's a massive product.

[00:05:15] It's huge.

[00:05:16] Right?

[00:05:17] And I think that if planners who don't know Cvent go ahead and set up an account and just go learn where everything is.

[00:05:25] You don't need to learn how to use it.

[00:05:27] Just know, oh, click here.

[00:05:29] Oh, that's where the emails are.

[00:05:30] Oh, this is where you put custom registration questions.

[00:05:33] Right?

[00:05:33] You don't necessarily have to know how to use it all, but you need to know where it is.

[00:05:38] Anyway.

[00:05:39] There you go.

[00:05:40] Well, that's going to take us into number two.

[00:05:42] Which is?

[00:05:44] Which I'm going to cue.

[00:05:45] You know, we'll put a link to the clip, but if you watch Ted Lasso, you know, the darts, the dart scene where he was playing darts.

[00:05:54] And he said, you know, be curious.

[00:05:58] Right?

[00:05:58] Right?

[00:05:59] And the other guy wasn't curious and didn't ask Ted Lasso if he knew how to play darts.

[00:06:04] And so Ted kicked the guy's ass.

[00:06:06] So, but that's really important.

[00:06:11] Right?

[00:06:12] And, you know, enroll in relevant courses.

[00:06:14] Right?

[00:06:15] There's a million of them out there on how to do.

[00:06:17] And this isn't necessarily all about event technology because there's a lot of technology that powers events.

[00:06:22] Right?

[00:06:23] So if you're curious about Notion or Evernote, you know, go watch a 10-minute tutorial on YouTube.

[00:06:30] YouTube is really, truly what I would call a live version of Encyclopedia Britannica.

[00:06:37] You can literally.

[00:06:39] You can learn anything.

[00:06:41] So my dishwasher broke.

[00:06:43] Right?

[00:06:44] Okay.

[00:06:44] And the thingy bajinky on the bottom wasn't spinning.

[00:06:47] And I went to YouTube, figured out what it was.

[00:06:51] Because I was able to go in there, pop the thing, put it back together, and now my dishwasher works and I didn't have to call a guy.

[00:06:57] There you go.

[00:06:58] Because you only need to call a guy when it's deep and you need to call a guy.

[00:07:01] Exactly.

[00:07:01] Again, like I said, leveling up the base knowledge so that that way you can do what you need to do and keep moving on.

[00:07:09] And now you can save some money around it.

[00:07:12] So let's look at number three, embracing experimentation.

[00:07:15] That's kind of my jam in a sense.

[00:07:18] People are kind of apprehensive of dipping their toe into the ocean, or I should say the baby lake or the ocean.

[00:07:26] Which one?

[00:07:27] Chicago's lake looks like an ocean.

[00:07:29] But let's say the baby lake.

[00:07:33] The baby lake.

[00:07:33] But absolutely we use our tablets, our smartphones, and our computers.

[00:07:36] But what kind of modern devices around being user-friendly to allow us to be more apt to experiment?

[00:07:47] Okay.

[00:07:48] So this one I actually, this one actually, I can actually come up with a very practical use for this.

[00:07:54] But most people are iPhone users.

[00:07:57] No, that is not true.

[00:07:58] You know I'm going to stop you there.

[00:07:59] Most people on the planet are Android users.

[00:08:02] Only people in the U.S. are iPhone users.

[00:08:04] Most people in the U.S. are iPhone users.

[00:08:08] And it's really funny, the mindset that you get into.

[00:08:11] And I see this a lot with Teams, where people who work in organizations where they use Office 365,

[00:08:18] they're always sending Teams meetings.

[00:08:21] And half the world doesn't use Teams.

[00:08:23] Or doesn't care to or shouldn't.

[00:08:25] Because Teams is the worst product ever made.

[00:08:28] I said it.

[00:08:29] But because they don't take the time, because going back to number two, because they're not curious,

[00:08:36] they don't understand the ramifications of sending out Teams meetings notifications.

[00:08:40] Right?

[00:08:41] They don't use Zoom or...

[00:08:43] Same goes for people who use Gmail.

[00:08:45] Or Google, rather.

[00:08:47] Google Workspace.

[00:08:47] They'll send out a Google Meet notice.

[00:08:49] And people who use Teams are like, oh my God.

[00:08:51] So what you need to do, and here's where it's practical.

[00:08:55] I think every organization that plans events should have a whole drawer full of dummy devices.

[00:09:02] Yes.

[00:09:02] Where you should have an Android tablet and an iPad, an Android phone and an iPhone,

[00:09:09] so that you can actually see what the attendee experience is on all of those different devices

[00:09:15] before you pick some tools.

[00:09:17] Exactly.

[00:09:18] That would be amazing.

[00:09:20] But does anyone do it?

[00:09:23] No.

[00:09:23] No.

[00:09:24] We do.

[00:09:24] But we should embrace that experimentation that way.

[00:09:29] I have a little shelf in my office that has a Lenovo Android tablet.

[00:09:34] It has an older iPad.

[00:09:36] It has an iPhone SE.

[00:09:39] Right?

[00:09:39] It's got all of these devices.

[00:09:41] Yes, you can see where all the things...

[00:09:42] Yep.

[00:09:43] And now we...

[00:09:44] Do you have a flip phone?

[00:09:45] So you can see what it looks like on a flip phone.

[00:09:48] Nobody should.

[00:09:51] But, you know, although with a lot of modern platforms, we won't bother to test, right?

[00:09:58] Because they do work across.

[00:10:00] But when an attendee calls in and says, I'm having a problem...

[00:10:03] And you can't figure out how they can undo it or guide them to support them.

[00:10:09] I can...

[00:10:10] You need to see it the way that they say.

[00:10:11] I can pull that Samsung phone right out of that little shelf, plug it into a charger, fire it up, and go see exactly.

[00:10:18] Which, a lot of times, you realize it's actually not the device.

[00:10:21] It's maybe a user setting.

[00:10:23] Right?

[00:10:23] So it allows you to help that attendee.

[00:10:25] And, you know, that's for another episode.

[00:10:27] But I think tech support for attendees is horrible across the industry.

[00:10:31] Okay.

[00:10:32] And I'm not leaving myself out of this, right?

[00:10:34] We could all do better.

[00:10:36] But, again, that's how you do it.

[00:10:38] So experiment with stuff.

[00:10:40] Yeah.

[00:10:41] And for the next one, we actually talked about this a little bit before, but we can dive a little bit more.

[00:10:45] It's utilize online video tutorials, right?

[00:10:49] That thing with YouTube.

[00:10:51] Yeah.

[00:10:51] It was really funny.

[00:10:52] We had a client that wanted to do something on their website.

[00:10:57] And I knew it could be done.

[00:10:58] So when the client was saying, I would like to do X, Y, and Z, and I'm in that meeting, I just went, okay.

[00:11:04] I had no idea how to get that done.

[00:11:06] But you knew there was a source.

[00:11:08] But, well, I knew it could be done.

[00:11:09] And then, so then, Matt and I, who we were, you know, he helps me with the websites.

[00:11:15] We went and a four-minute tutorial, and we were like, holy crap, that was easy.

[00:11:20] Right?

[00:11:21] And now we actually implement it across a lot of different client sites.

[00:11:24] But, again.

[00:11:25] It's those little things.

[00:11:27] So many people would just say, no, that can't be done.

[00:11:31] Which, you should still, going back to experimentation, you should play.

[00:11:36] See if things can work.

[00:11:38] See how you can make things, quote-unquote, customized to how you want them.

[00:11:45] And, you know, and try.

[00:11:46] Yeah.

[00:11:47] What's our next one?

[00:11:49] Number five.

[00:11:50] Seek assistance from tech-savvy individuals.

[00:11:53] So basically, people should just subscribe to this podcast, and that's it.

[00:11:56] That's all they need to do.

[00:11:57] Done.

[00:11:58] All right.

[00:11:58] Let's go to number six.

[00:12:00] But we also want them to look around them, too, and ask the questions, right?

[00:12:06] And request the help that they need on those specific tasks.

[00:12:10] Well, yeah, because sometimes you won't.

[00:12:12] And it's funny, my go-to suggestion on this one now is always Leanne Velke, right?

[00:12:17] With Sivan.

[00:12:17] Right?

[00:12:18] She is a god when it comes to Sivan.

[00:12:21] It is.

[00:12:22] Call her.

[00:12:22] Ask her.

[00:12:23] She knows it.

[00:12:24] Yeah.

[00:12:25] Or hire her.

[00:12:26] Yeah.

[00:12:26] Bring her in.

[00:12:27] I didn't mean call her for free, but call her, yes.

[00:12:29] But she also will throw out a lot of tidbits online.

[00:12:32] Yeah.

[00:12:33] She definitely will.

[00:12:35] Right?

[00:12:35] And pay attention.

[00:12:37] Right?

[00:12:37] When somebody like that says, hey, here's a new thing, pay attention.

[00:12:42] That way you are in the know.

[00:12:43] Yeah.

[00:12:44] Definitely.

[00:12:45] Number six.

[00:12:46] This is my favorite.

[00:12:47] Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[00:12:50] Leverage search engines effectively.

[00:12:52] Okay.

[00:12:53] What does that mean?

[00:12:54] You can tell them.

[00:12:55] There's only one search engine, right, Keith?

[00:12:57] Are there others besides Google?

[00:13:01] No, not really.

[00:13:02] Well, you know, any search engine, even if you do use Bing, or even ChatGPT, right?

[00:13:11] Because even though, like, a ChatGPT is an AI product, they do.

[00:13:17] They actually just introduced a search function.

[00:13:20] Yeah.

[00:13:20] Right.

[00:13:21] And you can also use the extension for Perplexity AI and change your browser from, even Chrome,

[00:13:29] change your browser from utilizing Google as search to Perplexity.

[00:13:34] Yes.

[00:13:34] And so, and understanding how to search.

[00:13:39] Right?

[00:13:40] You know, you don't, you may not necessarily, you know, you can type in, you know, how to

[00:13:44] use Stova.

[00:13:46] Right?

[00:13:46] And you'll get some answers.

[00:13:48] But be specific.

[00:13:49] You know, with the AI models that are now built into search, or just Google itself, you

[00:13:55] know, you should learn search operators.

[00:13:57] You know, if you are searching for my name, Keith Johnston, you're, after that, you're going

[00:14:02] to want to put minus Johnson.

[00:14:06] Because it always thinks that you've misspelled Johnston, and will give you results for Keith

[00:14:11] Johnson, which there are 8,000 of them.

[00:14:13] Like a billion of them.

[00:14:14] Right.

[00:14:15] So, you know, again, just learn, learn how to search.

[00:14:18] It only takes 20 minutes.

[00:14:20] Or less, just depending on how things are.

[00:14:24] Well, the next one is not my favorite.

[00:14:27] Number seven.

[00:14:28] Master email communication.

[00:14:29] You know, I've been trying to get people out of email hell forever.

[00:14:33] Well, mastering email communication should come down to don't use email, but we won't

[00:14:38] go there.

[00:14:39] No.

[00:14:39] No, but with mastering email communication and becoming tech savvy, while they, let's call

[00:14:47] those adjacent.

[00:14:48] Okay.

[00:14:49] You know, being proficient with email communication doesn't make you tech savvy, but it's definitely

[00:14:57] right in there.

[00:14:58] Right?

[00:14:58] It's those people that don't understand how their email works.

[00:15:03] They don't understand the out-of-office responders, how to set them up.

[00:15:07] They don't understand.

[00:15:08] Auto responders.

[00:15:09] Yes.

[00:15:09] They think they're out-of-office, but they're actually auto responders.

[00:15:12] Yes.

[00:15:13] And they can use them for all kinds of things.

[00:15:15] All kinds of things.

[00:15:16] So they can, you know, you can actually set them up so that only certain responders go to

[00:15:23] certain people.

[00:15:25] Searching within email.

[00:15:26] Right?

[00:15:27] If you use, you know, Office 365 is great, whatever, but no one will ever beat Google when

[00:15:31] it comes to search.

[00:15:33] Learn how to search within your email.

[00:15:35] Email, you know, it's so funny.

[00:15:36] People will have folders in their emails, you know, and they've dropped, like they'll have

[00:15:40] it by client or by event, whatever, and they drop all the emails in there and they've got

[00:15:44] a folder for AV and all this.

[00:15:45] I do not do that because I know how to search within my email.

[00:15:50] So if I need to find a proposal from Encore for an event that is happening in Saskatoon,

[00:15:55] Canada, I can get that email in less time than it would take me to actually set up a folder

[00:16:02] and move the first email in there.

[00:16:04] Yeah.

[00:16:05] So people should really know how their email works.

[00:16:07] And it's getting better and better and better now.

[00:16:09] Every single day.

[00:16:11] The next one, which is, and this will be number eight on our list of ten, which is very important

[00:16:22] now, you know, it, which, and it's stay informed about social media trends.

[00:16:30] And I think that this is so key right now with marketing your event, keeping attendees informed

[00:16:36] at your event.

[00:16:37] You know, there are, it is a lot more now than LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter.

[00:16:41] Yeah.

[00:16:42] Or I'm sorry, X, whatever he's calling it nowadays.

[00:16:45] Right?

[00:16:46] X is basically dead.

[00:16:49] You don't even need to be there, you know, but do you need to be on Blue Sky?

[00:16:54] You need to figure it out and see.

[00:16:56] Or do you need to lurk on X to understand what's still happening under another handle and then

[00:17:06] still find out what's happening going on?

[00:17:09] Well, I love a couple of tools.

[00:17:10] I love Social Media Examiner.

[00:17:13] It's one of my favorites.

[00:17:14] Yes.

[00:17:14] To stay abreast on what's going on because it'll give me my little newsletters all the

[00:17:19] time and I can just peek in and peek out as I need to, to stay.

[00:17:23] And then if I need to test some of the tools or know what's happening, then it's not as bad

[00:17:27] as if I'm getting newsletter updates from each one.

[00:17:30] Even though I do get updates from LinkedIn to see about the new releases and a few other

[00:17:35] things.

[00:17:36] But I like to have one general that kind of gives me, keeps me abreast.

[00:17:41] Well, and I think Social Media Examiner as an example, and it is probably the, that's

[00:17:46] probably the one.

[00:17:47] If everyone just subscribed to Social Media Examiner, you've nailed it.

[00:17:52] But it also tells you what's important.

[00:17:54] Yes.

[00:17:55] Right?

[00:17:55] LinkedIn is going to give you, you know, when you get their email update, they're going

[00:17:59] to give you every little tool and change or whatever.

[00:18:01] Exactly.

[00:18:02] Well, that's kind of overwhelming, right?

[00:18:03] Where Social Media Examiner, they've already done the research.

[00:18:06] They're going to say and say, hey, LinkedIn has a bunch of new features.

[00:18:08] This is the only one that matters.

[00:18:11] Exactly.

[00:18:11] Exactly.

[00:18:12] So, ooh, ooh.

[00:18:14] Now we're up to my second favorite.

[00:18:16] You take it.

[00:18:18] So, and I'll use video editing.

[00:18:21] Oh, no.

[00:18:21] I'll use when I'm at the production table.

[00:18:23] Okay.

[00:18:23] So, I'm at the production table and people are always mesmerized by, like, they will hand

[00:18:29] me PowerPoints or they will hand me whatever.

[00:18:31] And within two minutes, it's ready to go to screen.

[00:18:35] And people, and they're like, whoa.

[00:18:37] Is that because you practice keyboard shortcuts?

[00:18:40] It is.

[00:18:41] It's all about the keyboard shortcuts.

[00:18:43] Oh.

[00:18:43] And everything has keyboard shortcuts.

[00:18:45] Right?

[00:18:46] You know, if you're in Excel, there are keyboard shortcuts.

[00:18:48] If you're in Zoom.

[00:18:49] If you're in Zoom.

[00:18:50] Oh, Zoom's keyboard shortcuts, they are, well, they're off the hook.

[00:18:55] Right?

[00:18:55] That's how you can do production in Zoom.

[00:18:57] Right?

[00:18:57] You need to know how to do keyboard shortcuts.

[00:19:00] You know, video editing.

[00:19:01] If you want to do it quick, Control-C for cut.

[00:19:05] Right?

[00:19:05] You know, again, you want to learn Control-C, Control-V for copy and paste.

[00:19:09] You want to know what those keyboard shortcuts are because then you can actually take the

[00:19:13] keyboard shortcuts to the next level, which are utilizing a little tool like a stream deck.

[00:19:20] Right?

[00:19:20] Where you can actually program one button that is a keyboard shortcut.

[00:19:24] And then you go, bing, and it's done.

[00:19:26] Yeah.

[00:19:27] Bing.

[00:19:27] It's done.

[00:19:28] If you ever wondered, in a lot of productions, you know, when it switches from the PowerPoint

[00:19:33] to a video and then back to the PowerPoint, yeah, the guys can click and they can do that.

[00:19:39] But you'll notice at a lot more production tables now, it's, you know, you've got all

[00:19:43] the whole setup, but it's a whole bunch of stream decks that are up there.

[00:19:46] Yep.

[00:19:46] And they're literally hitting video one, video two.

[00:19:50] There you go.

[00:19:51] And that's how they got it to just say video one and you hit the button and the video plays

[00:19:56] is they program those shortcuts into the stream deck.

[00:20:00] From the run-up show.

[00:20:01] Yeah.

[00:20:02] So, all right.

[00:20:03] Bring us home, Cass.

[00:20:03] From the queues into the run-up show.

[00:20:05] I see.

[00:20:05] Number 10.

[00:20:07] Explore programming concepts.

[00:20:09] So, this is the one I think most people try to avoid.

[00:20:13] Yes.

[00:20:13] And actually, we actually talked about this before this ever, before we ever recorded.

[00:20:19] We actually do discuss these things.

[00:20:20] And this was the one where we were both like, should we even include that?

[00:20:24] Yeah.

[00:20:25] But I think it's necessary that we should.

[00:20:27] Because if you master all the other nine, right, then you're, then you're the final step

[00:20:33] is programming concepts.

[00:20:35] And you can use, you can, and no one is saying that you need to learn how to hard code an app

[00:20:41] by hand.

[00:20:43] But you can use little things like there's a programming language called PHP, right?

[00:20:48] Where you can use PHP to bulk rename an entire folder full of files.

[00:20:54] Look at there.

[00:20:56] Right?

[00:20:56] You can use it to run formulas in Excel.

[00:21:00] You can, you can, if, if, if you're using gravity forms for event registration, it only downloads

[00:21:10] all the data as CSV.

[00:21:12] And then you need to make a change to that.

[00:21:15] To Excel.

[00:21:16] So, you can download all of the different reports.

[00:21:18] And instead of opening them, saving as Excel, open and save as Excel, you can just run a little

[00:21:24] script and it'll convert everything in the folder to Excel, which is definitely the way

[00:21:31] to go.

[00:21:31] Definitely the way to go.

[00:21:33] So, there's HTML, CSS, kind of things that you want to demystify.

[00:21:38] And there are tons of online classes.

[00:21:40] There are coding clubs out there.

[00:21:43] Platforms like Meetup.

[00:21:44] We've also said YouTube.

[00:21:47] And, you know, you could also use AI and say, you know, I'm really interested in learning

[00:21:51] how to do X, Y, and Z.

[00:21:53] And then ask it to teach you how to do X, Y, and Z and learn from it.

[00:21:57] But also ask for those resources so that you can go to the resources and learn a little

[00:22:02] bit more.

[00:22:02] Yeah.

[00:22:03] And if you have kids, they will be hyper impressed.

[00:22:06] Hyper, hyper impressed.

[00:22:08] Hyper.

[00:22:09] Kim, I want to close by saying this one thing.

[00:22:11] I know just earlier this week or end of last week, the state of Arizona has already approved

[00:22:16] where they're going to begin to open schools that focus on teaching from the AI perspective.

[00:22:23] So, like Khan Academy is a part of it and some others.

[00:22:26] So, I think it's interesting that there's a state out there that instead of, remember,

[00:22:31] you have regular school, you have private school, you have charter schools, you have home schools,

[00:22:35] and now you're going to have schools that open up that literally come from being taught

[00:22:41] by AI with a teacher in the room who's more of a coach and assisting that AI process.

[00:22:49] Huh.

[00:22:50] It's an entire school.

[00:22:51] I don't know how I feel about that.

[00:22:53] Yeah, well, we can talk about that on another episode.

[00:22:55] But I thought that that was interesting.

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